Comments on: Israel at 60

By: yaman

yaman — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:36:25 +0000

Raanan, with all due respect, the partition plan itself was a colonial plan (since when does the UN have the right to partition other coutries?) that was based on British plans during the Mandate of Palestine. I don’t deny that there is a ‘link’ between the Jewish religion and Jerusalem or the area of Palestine. There is a similar ‘link’ (here I feel like it is purely religious) with Christians and Muslims. But that does not translate into a right (1) to create a state that privileges Jews over non-Jews (2) to settle Jewish immigrants at the expense of non-Jewish indigenous people or (3) to deny the rights of the non-Jewish inhabitants of that area both to live there and to live there as equals. Notice that these are not features of Judaism. They are features of Israeli state policy and 20th/21st century political Zionism. I never claimed there was not enough room for both peoples, and I certainly would NEVER claim that the Jewish inhabitants of Israel-Palestine should be forced to leave–but it is especially ironic that this is precisely what happened to the Palestinians in 48 and after. There is room for all people in Palestine in Israel–but it won’t happen under the supremacist ideology of Zionism.

By: Raanan Geberer

Raanan Geberer — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 12:56:42 +0000

You forget that if the Palestinians had accepted the 1947 partition plan, there would be not one Palestinian refugee, and there would be a Palestinian state.

You also forget that we are not “colonists,” but that there is an age-old link between the Jewish religion and the land of Israel. Just read any one of the Psalms, especially the one that begins “by the waters of Babylon.” Read the book of Lamentations, about the lamentations of the prophet Jeremiah after the first Temple is destroyed. Read Yehuda Halevi’s medieval poem, “My heart is in the east, but I am in the utmost west…” And why do you think religious Jews, when they pray, face Jerusalem? You cannot wipe out our entire history.

There’s more than enough room in Palestine-Israel for both groups of people. You can advocate for the rights of the Palestinians without de-legitimizing and insulting the dignity of the other party.

Raanan G

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By: seth

seth — Wed, 14 May 2008 19:08:21 +0000

it’s always funny when some tool sets itself up as the voice of truth. but on the bright side, it can save you the time you would have wasted looking at what they say by letting you know that they’re full of shit up-front.

By: yaman

yaman — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:10:22 +0000

You’re going to have to back that claim up.

By: truth

truth — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:03:38 +0000

“Thatâ€™s right, maybe when it turns 62, Israel will finally pack its bags, move to Florida, and let the Palestinians return to their homes and live in peace.”

Anti-Semitism

By: yaman

yaman — Tue, 13 May 2008 15:07:40 +0000

Haha, well, to be clear I wasn’t suggesting Israelis should move to Florida. I was kind of referring to “Israel” abstractly as an occupation state and the framework of laws that makes Palestinian lives miserable. But Israelis themselves should not be made to move.

By: falasteenyia

falasteenyia — Tue, 13 May 2008 08:00:10 +0000

legal retirement age, lol.

but you may be on to something …. the avg age of israeli jews i think is much higher than the palestinian avg….if one day they find services for elderly to be lacking, florida may seem like a tempting option…

By: Rana

Rana — Fri, 09 May 2008 08:54:21 +0000

Nice bost.

By: Wassim

Wassim — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:19:50 +0000

So much effort is being made to show that Israel is strong and vibrant, yet it is weaker than a spiders cobweb…